FLCC> Landis returns positive sample!

Thu Jul 27 11:41:11 EDT 2006

There is also a load of precedents to look at.  Let's face it, doping in
cycling is rampant to the point where everyone is suspect.  I would think
that someone who pulled of a move like Phloyd did in Stage 17 would be
even more suspect.

Personally, I think that it's more logical these days to assume a top
level pro dopes vs not.  If enough of them are doping to unlevel the
playing field, which it definitely seems there are enough, then to stay on
the field otehrs are going to have to join in with the doping or give up
the game completely.

Is Landis guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?  Of course not.  It looks
pretty bad, though.  I'm no doc and I don't know if the levels of
testosterone found were capable of being produced naturally, but as I
understand it the UCI limits are pretty darned (high to the point of being
very difficult to acheive naturally) given that intense exercise will
raise your blood testosterone level.

> It's just the typical "guilty until proven innocent" mentality that seems
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> Sadly, I am not in the least surprised.  At that level, I think the great
> majority of riders dope on some level.  It's almost a necessity to stay
> competitive when other are doing it.
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> Wonder how badly Mr and Mrs Landis feel about this?  This will definitely
> not fly with their Mennonite morality....-.
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>> On 07/27/2006 16:08 PM, rob at cginy.net allegedly wrote:
>>> They all cheat, folks.
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>> So far I choose not to believe it.  It would be very very disappointing.
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