FLCC> [Cookies] one person's view of Tuesday night

Stan Mcfall sam19 at cornell.edu
Fri Jul 13 08:33:30 EDT 2007


maybe the club should buy a couple of these for the A & B groups   a couple 
of people have this strapped on there bike and when they see a violator 
going over the yellow line of not heading the car back yell....the person 
carrying just rides up and give them a shot

http://cgi.ebay.com/hot-shot-cattle-prod-12-inch_W0QQitemZ130132633256QQihZ003QQcategoryZ11751QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

stan







At 08:34 PM 7/12/2007 -0400, Don Smith wrote:

>I have also noticed many transgressions that make our Tuesday night events 
>less safe, and more likely to draw negative attention from the authorities 
>and others who share the roads with us.  I've seen plenty of the 
>previously mentioned crossing of yellow lines and shouts of "Car back" not 
>relayed, or ignored.
>
>I'd like to raise one other issue that might help keep things safe and 
>viable.  I've always felt that the most dangerous points in our rides are 
>the intersections that have a stop sign, like at Midline/Irish Settlement, 
>Irish Settlement/79, or White Church/ Coddington.  What usually happens is 
>that the people who get through the turns first immediately stomp on 
>it.  This encourages those behind them to want to get through the 
>intersectuion as fast as they can to avoid being dropped.  This can create 
>a very dangerous situation, especially when you add motor vehicle traffic 
>to the mix.   It also can lead to a reckless type of bicycle behavior that 
>would be frowned upon by the authorities.  Would it make sense to declare 
>these intersections "neutral" and discourage riders from attacking as they 
>come out of them?  We could have an understanding that a group entering 
>one of these corners should stay together, maintaining the same order and 
>spacing, until the whole group has safely passed through.
>
>How do you all feel about this?
>
>Don Smith
>
>
>
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>Nick,
>You are one of the best riders in our group and it is important that you
>speak up. I see a general lack of concern about traffic on Tuesday night
>and I really don't understand it. There are several "old timers" who
>don't think that car back needs to be heeded. If more of us speak up and
>say that the problem exists and your specific action is the issue
>perhaps we can make a difference.
>
>How about at the start on top of Ringwood? We had the whole road blocked
>and a P.U. was trying to move through us safely. People saw him coming
>and still didn't move out of the way. Why was there a need to even shout
>at people to get out of the road? The only way Mad Dog finally moved is
>when I threw the dog biscuit into the bushes!
>
>There seems to be this lack of consideration for the cars we share the
>road with. Complaints are going to occur and we need to do our best not
>to create unnecessary situations.
>
>Don
>
>
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