FLCC> FW: crushing of local cyclist

Wayne Gottlieb wgottlieb at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 22 22:38:34 EDT 2007


I'm so excited, my car is the lightest listed vehicle.
Although the vehicle I usually commute with comes in
at slightly over 200 pounds, passenger and computer
included.  Wayne


--- John Dennis <jvd at baka.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike and the FLCC listserv, 
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, I was in error in my earlier post to have
> implied that the driver of
> the Jeep was at fault, as there was little or
> nothing first IJ article to
> warrant such an implication. From the IJ today we
> learn that witnesses saw
> the FedeX truck driven into the path of a Jeep Grand
> Cherokee which had
> right-of-way. 
> 
>  
> 
> My point about momentum is that many SUVs are
> unnecessarily heavy and thus
> are more prone to cause harm to others when involved
> in accidents.  Why not
> complain about this? 
> 
>  
> 
> According to Wikipedia, “vehicles over 6,000 pounds
> are restricted from many
> city roadways in the United States although there is
> some dispute about
> whether this restriction is for actual curb weight
> or for GVWR (gross
> vehicle weight rating). GVWR is the maximum
> allowable total weight of a road
> vehicle or trailer that is loaded, including the
> weight of the vehicle
> itself plus fuel, passengers, cargo, and trailer
> tongue weight.” In the
> United States, two important GVWR limitations are
> 6,000 pounds and 8,500
> pounds. 
> 
>  
> 
> Andy Bowers suggests in a HYPERLINK
> "http://slate.com/id/2104755/"2004
> article that California has banned big SUVs from
> many of its roads without
> realizing it. He claims that many big SUVs are
> banned from most roads in LA,
> San Francisco and Santa Monica by pre-SUV laws that
> banned trucks weighing
> more than 6000 pounds. Below I have made a table
> showing the GRWR and curb
> weights for various 2007 model SUVs and a few 2007
> sedans. Note that the
> Jeep Grand Cherokee—the sedan involved in Friday’s
> accident--is just under
> the 6000 pound GRWR threshold. 
> 
>  
> 
> HYPERLINK
>
"http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS"NYS’s
> limits on vehicle weights appear to be very liberal.
>  The weight on a single
> wheel “shall be not  more
>   than eleven thousand two hundred pounds.” That’s
> the equivalent of an
> entire H1 Hummer resting on a single wheel.
> 
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> Vehicle weights in pounds for 2007 vehicles unless
> indicated
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> factor
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> GRWR is
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> GRWR
> 
> curb weight
> 
> >6000 lbs
> 
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> 
> Hummer H1 (2006)
> 
> 10,300
> 
> 7847
> 
> 1.72
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hummer H2
> 
> 8600
> 
> 6400
> 
> 1.43
> 
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> 
> Lincoln Navigator
> 
> 7800
> 
> 6008
> 
> 1.30
> 
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> 
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> Chevy Tahoe 2008
> 
> 7300
> 
> 5524
> 
> 1.22
> 
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> Chevy Suburban
> 
> 7200
> 
> 5505
> 
> 1.20
> 
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> GMC Yukon
> 
> 7100
> 
> 5635
> 
> 1.18
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> Toyota Land Cruiser
> 
> 6925
> 
> 5425
> 
> 1.15
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> 
> Toyota Sequoia
> 
> 6600
> 
> 5140
> 
> 1.10
> 
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