FLCC> FW: crushing of local cyclist

Wayne Gottlieb wgottlieb at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 23 15:55:40 EDT 2007


Inattentional blindness (if it is a real thing)
certainly provides a good reason to urge more people
to bike commute.  A single person on the road is much
more likely to be overlooked (and hit) than if there
were bikers every 100 feet or so.  If I were eloquent,
I would simply write a letter to the journal
encouraging people to ride.  If someone starts a
scandle, they're much more likely to print it.  In
fact, if we could somehow write it in a way that it's
critical of the highschool or DeWitt Middle School,
it's sure to get published.  Cynically yours, Wayne

--- Bill Goffe <goffe at oswego.edu> wrote:

> On "claimed he didn't see" it might be a case of
> "inattentional
> blindness." Clearly I wasn't there, but this is a
> fairly common phenomena
> and I'd like to think that not everyone is that
> mendacious.
> One writeup is
>
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/inattentionalblindness.html
> .
> The one about the airliner flying into the ground is
> apparently a classic example. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness
> describes how people
> missed a person in a gorilla suit in a film as they
> were looking for
> something else.
> 
> It would appear that the take-home message for
> cyclists is to be extra
> careful.
> 
>         - Bill
> 
> Alex said:
> 
> >    John, FLCC,
> > 
> >    It's probably just coincidence but the two
> times I was hit in the city
> >    were by large Jeep SUVs. On the first occasion,
> the guy went right through
> >    a red light and hit my car in the back,
> spinning me completely around
> >    (claimed he didn't see the red, or any, light).
> On the second occasion, I
> >    was hit while riding my bike to work by someone
> who turned into me trying
> >    to get into a driveway (claimed he didn't see
> me).
> > 
> >    Yesterday, I saw an accident on Meadow street
> by the Ithaca bakery and,
> >    you guessed it, a large Jeep SUV was involved.
> > 
> >    Ride safe,
> >    Alex
> > 
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: John Dennis <jvd at baka.com>
> >    To: flcc at icycle.org; 'Mike Simkin'
> <mes13 at cornell.edu>
> >    Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 8:29 pm
> >    Subject: FLCC> FW: crushing of local cyclist
> > 
> >    Hi Mike and the FLCC listserv,
> > 
> >    Yes, I was in error in my earlier post to have
> implied that the driver of
> >    the Jeep was at fault, as there was little or
> nothing first IJ article to
> >    warrant such an implication. From the IJ today
> we learn that witnesses saw
> >    the FedeX truck driven into the path of a Jeep
> Grand Cherokee which had
> >    right-of-way.
> > 
> >    My point about momentum is that many SUVs are
> unnecessarily heavy and thus
> >    are more prone to cause harm to others when
> involved in accidents.  Why
> >    not complain about this?
> > 
> >    According to Wikipedia, "vehicles over 6,000
> pounds are restricted from
> >    many [1]city roadways in the United States
> although there is some dispute
> >    about whether this restriction is for actual
> curb weight or for GVWR
> >    (gross vehicle weight rating). GVWR is the
> maximum allowable total
> >    [2]weight of a [3]road [4]vehicle or trailer
> that is loaded, including the
> >    weight of the vehicle itself plus [5]fuel,
> [6]passengers, [7]cargo, and
> >    [8]trailer tongue weight." In the [9]United
> States, two important GVWR
> >    limitations are 6,000 [10]pounds (2,721 [11]kg)
> and 8,500 pounds (3,856
> >    kg).
> > 
> >    Andy Bowers suggests in a [12]2004 article that
> California has banned big
> >    SUVs from many of its roads without realizing
> it. He claims that many big
> >    SUVs are banned from most roads in LA, San
> Francisco and Santa Monica by
> >    pre-SUV laws that banned trucks weighing more
> than 6000 pounds. Below I
> >    have made a table showing the GRWR and curb
> weights for various 2007 model
> >    SUVs and a few 2007 sedans. Note that the Jeep
> Grand Cherokee--the sedan
> >    involved in Friday's accident--is just under
> the 6000 pound GRWR
> >    threshold.
> > 
> > 
> >  [13]NYS's limits on vehicle weights appear to be
> very liberal.  The weight on a single wheel "shall
> be not  more
> > 
> >    than eleven thousand two hundred pounds."
> That's the equivalent of an entire H1 Hummer resting
> on a single wheel.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    Vehicle weights in pounds
> >    for 2007 vehicles unless
> >    indicated
> >                                                   
> factor
> >                                                   
> GRWR is
> >                                 GRWR   curb weight
> >6000 lbs
> >    Hummer H1 (2006)             10,300        7847
>      1.72
> >    Hummer H2                      8600        6400
>      1.43
> >    Lincoln Navigator              7800        6008
>      1.30
> >    Chevy Tahoe 2008               7300        5524
>      1.22
> >    Chevy Suburban                 7200        5505
>      1.20
> >    GMC Yukon                      7100        5635
>      1.18
> >    Toyota Land Cruiser            6925        5425
>      1.15
> >    Toyota Sequoia                 6600        5140
>      1.10
> >    VW Touareg                     6493        5254
>      1.08
> >    Jeep Grand Cherokee            5900        4488
>      0.98
> >    Hummer H3                      5850        4700
>      0.98
> > 
> >    Toyota Rav4                    4535        3444
>      0.76
> >    Toyota Camry                               3680
> >    Toyota Corolla                             2550
> >    Toyota Prius                               2890
> >    VW Passat                                  3344
> >    VW Beetle                                  2948
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> >    Does the Town or City of Ithaca have any weight
> limits?  Engineer Tom West
> >    of the City of Ithaca told me today he didn't
> know of any, but he will
> >    check. I have found a limitation of truck
> weights to 5 tons in parts of
> >    [14]Forest Home.
> > 
> >    Would it be out-of-line for cyclists as a group
> to ask that the Town of
> >    Ithaca and the City of Ithaca to impose limits
> on the size of SUVs allowed
> >    on Ithaca streets?  I think not.  For one
> thing, it would be a show of
> >    solidarity with the cyclist, Edward Coil, who
> was crushed by the Fedex
> >    truck as a result of Friday's accident. Second,
> are streets would be safer
> >    for everyone, no just cyclists.  Third, our
> pavements would last longer
> >    and there would be less pressure to raise
> taxes. And fourth, our City and
> 
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