FLCC> ESG qualifiers - Cookies Crumbling ?

[Peter Ozolins]

According to the DMV, one has no more than ten days to change one's 
address with them if one moves. Something I've also been informed of by 
police on occasion. One has to decide where one "resides" with regard to 
the law and how it pertains to one's life. It looks like those with New 
York drivers licenses could have changed their address on the spot, though.

I think that what I've learned about the ESG's over the years is to take 
them with a grain of salt. They are fun, the competition is lively the 
the price is definitely right. On the other hand the organizers aren't 
right in every one's opinion all the time. As a junior, one of our team 
mates was hit by a truck in the individual TT on the first day. I was 
called in, my dad took the day off and we drove up, but I was pulled off 
the start line because no alternate could enter after "the games" had 
begun. Well, sad day, but not the last one. I went to 'games several 
other times and had some good fun.

When one feels victim to the rules, it's usually a good time to try and 
understand the situation a little better. There is usually a reason why 
or a flip side to the coin.

That's what my experience.

Peter


mgarcia at borgwarner.com wrote:
> FYI I sent this to Karen earlier in the day and have since
> added a sentence here and there.
>
>
> Dear Karen:
>
> Thanks for weighing in on this.  You are right that we often don't give
> our officials, volunteers, and coaches the credit and thanks they
> deserve,
> and we owe them that.  For what its worth, I did say thanks to a few
> people including Marsha K. and the corner marshalls on Barlow Rd.
> I'm just telling you this so you don't think I'm a mean guy who just
> wants to cheat his way to a team gold.
>
> I think we can agree that at the end of the day we need to abide by the
> rules and the decisions of the officials.  But some of us couldn't hide
> our
> disappointment very well at how the rules were interpreted.  Without
> trying
> to be too argumentative or disrespectful, I would like to make a few
> counter-
> points.
>
> 1) As long as I can remember, the definition of home region was decided
> by 
> the address on your USCF license, or whatever was in their database.
> Apparently this is 
> not the case any more.  This really isn't fair for students who meet the
> spirit 
> of residency requirements, many living in Ithaca year round, but don't
> end up
> changing the addresses on their NYS licenses ... which can go for
> five or more years without needing renewal!  My NYS license, for
> instance,
> was issued in 2004 and expires in 2012 ... hardly an up-to-date
> barometer of
> my current address.  A USCF license is updated and renewed every year
> and 
> in my opinion is a better criteria for determination.  Or maybe there
> are others.
>
> Even if the status of undergraduates is debatable, at least one of the
> riders in question is a graduate student who has clearly lived and
> worked
> in Ithaca for some time.  Rules are rules, but if they aren't fair they
> need
> to be changed or re-interpreted.
>
> 2) ESGs IS about fielding the best team, within the spirit of rules and
> fairness.
> Otherwise, why would there be a selection process?  Regardless of who is
> right and
> wrong, I think our disappointment at not having the team we could have
> had is 
> understandable.  For example, leaving this debate aside, I am equally
> disappointed 
> that another local masters rider could not try out to compete because he
> is undergoing 
> chemotherapy.  But no one would fault me for being bummed about that.
>
> 3) Margaret has been putting time into games for a long time and I think
> we all
> know and respect her.  Although for the record I never referred to her
> as an 'ESG
> beurocrat' I think that the reference was not to her but to the people
> who drew up
> the rules that she was interpreting.  And like I said, at the end of the
> day, we
> have no choice but to abide by her decision, even if we grumble a bit.
>
> 4) I agree that some of the riders in question arrived late.  However, I
> think that
> the issues are getting muddled.  Were they denied registration because
> they were 
> late and annoyed the officials or because of residency issues?  Another
> rider
> who was not late but had residency questions was issued a number and
> allowed to race.
> If Glenn had arrived late, for instance, would anyone have given him a
> hard time?  
> I doubt it.  In retrospect, I think it would have been better to allow
> them to race 
> and then sort out these issues afterwards.  Now, we have no choice left.
>
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> Ano
>
>
>
> Mariano Garcia 
> BorgWarner Morse TEC Inc.
> Ithaca Technical Center
> 770 Warren Rd.    Ithaca NY 14850
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