FLCC> Winter training question

Wayne Gottlieb wgottlieb at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 23 20:45:36 EDT 2008


Just a guess.  When you centrifuge (spin really fast)
a tube of blood, the fat goes to the top.   Olives,
which are full of fat, will probably tend to move in a
motion contrary to the more dense water (even though
alcohol will make it slightly less dense).  I've seen
a similar optical illusion when making dry ice bath in
alcohol.  If you watch water boil the bubbles move
rapidly to the surface.  In an alcohol dry ice bath,
CO2 is more dense than air and alcohol is less dense
than water.  The result is CO2 bubbles moving very
slowly up through the alcohol, making it look like a
thick syrup.  

OK, it's either this or some fancy thermodynamic
phenomenon involving vortexes and something.  or
you're just lying to us to get list serve time.  Wayne


--- William Lodico <wlodico at stny.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> So far, I've got only one response to my question,
> which is  
> reproduced below.  There might be something to
> Wayde's analysis, but  
> I've noticed the phenomenon even on the first
> martini, and I seldom  
> drink more than one at a sitting.
> 
> Maybe I should be more precise:  It's not so much a
> rotation of the  
> martini, as a swirling of the martini, simply by
> moving the glass  
> around in a circle, that triggers the peculiar
> motion of the olive.   
> Whichever way the liquid seems to swirl, the olive
> goes the other  
> way.  In order to avoid spilling the valuable
> beverage, it's  
> necessary to consume some of it before running the
> experiment, which  
> of course might affect the integrity of the
> observation, as Wayde  
> implies.  It would seem obvious, but I should
> probably specify that  
> the martini must be served straight up, not on the
> rocks, shaken not  
> stirred, in a classic stemmed cocktail glass.  The
> olive should not  
> have a toothpick in it.  A pimento helps mark the
> rolling motion of  
> the olive.  A proportion of four parts gin to one of
> dry vermouth  
> seems to work well.
> 
> I'm wondering if it's part of the same phenomenon
> that causes me to  
> require a stack of mattresses on both sides when
> riding on the  
> rollers.  I'm hoping that the answer to the martini
> question will  
> help me with my future roller training, and maybe
> allow me to leave  
> the mattresses in the bedrooms next winter, instead
> of dragging them  
> into the basement, where I do my rollering.  It
> might also help me to  
> get more benefit from my roller training time, since
> I would spend  
> more of it upright pedaling, and less of it more or
> less comfortably  
> lying on my side, feet clipped into the pedals,
> watching old Tour de  
> France tapes.
> 
> I've never been very good at the mechanics of stuff
> going round in  
> circles, so I really could use some help here.
> 
> --Bill L
> 
> On Mar 23, 2008, at 1:11 PM, <bianchitt at stny.rr.com>
>  
> <bianchitt at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > It's a visual illusion due to the numerous
> Martini's that you  
> > consumed prior to the one you are speaking about!!
> >
> > Wayde, Binghamton
> > ---- William Lodico <wlodico at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> >> The winter training season is nearly over, but
> there's been a
> >> question troubling me since the start of it.
> >>
> >> Since this listserve is populated with
> individuals highly proficient
> >> in mathematics, physics, and various kinds of
> engineering, I thought
> >> I would post my question here.
> >>
> >> How come, when I rotate my martini clockwise, the
> olive goes
> >> counterclockwise?
> >>
> >> I'm sure your response will be of universal
> interest, so please post
> >> it to list.
> >>
> >> Bill L
> >
> 
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