FLCC> Date for bike commuting meeting

[M. E. McPhee]

Hi Wayne et al.

I don't know if I can make the meeting, but I'd like to throw another  
topic into the ring:

* education of commuter cyclists
I see so many people who are using the bike as transportation that  
don't wear a helmet, have no lights and wear dark clothing at night,  
ride on the wrong side of the street, etc.  No wonder cars hate us  
when that is the primary type of rider they encounter - they don't  
distinguish between a roadie with experience and etiquette and the  
kid who listens to his ipod as he rides up the wrong side of Warren!   
I'm not sure if this is the cart or the horse - in other words, if we  
make the city cycling friendly will these problems diminish?  or do  
we need to deal with these problems before people will be willing to  
invest in making the city cycling friendly?

There are my two cents -

Cheers,
Misty

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M. Elsbeth (Misty) McPhee
Cornell University
223 Uris Hall
Ithaca, NY 14853
http://people.psych.cornell.edu/~mem247/
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On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Wayne Gottlieb wrote:

> FLCC-ers, members of the curb your car coalition are
> working on setting up a date for a first meeting to
> discuss some of the bike issues  we've been talking
> about (no, not who's going to pick up the coffee for
> Hollenbecks).  Many in the club have expressed an
> interest in being involved in a push to increase
> cycling in Ithaca and to make the area more bike
> friendly (not for us of course, we'd ride on the
> turnpike if there was a nice gas station with a
> propane tank to sit next to at the end).  I know there
> are a lot of different opinions in this group about
> what we should do.   The question is, "Do you want to
> join in with the CYCC meeting, or have a meeting of
> our own?"  I sent the following message on to David
> Kay of CYCC with my suggestions for the first meeting.
> Please let me know what your preference is.  If you'd
> like to attend a joint meeting, send a date preference
> (see below for dates and times).  Thanks.  Wayne
>
>
>
> Any of these dates work for me.  I'm going to send
> this message to the FLCC.  There are quite a few there
> who might be interested.  Can we set an agenda though?
>  A lot of ideas have been tossed around, and it's
> clear that people have different interests.  Maybe we
> could ask people for agenda items by E-mail and come
> up with a list of common interests.  I'll start by
> putting down some of my own.  I don't think it would
> we should expect to get through them all in one
> meeting.
>
> 1.  If we had unlimited money and political power what
> would we want ("a chance to dream" or "why can't we be
> like Copenhagen?").
>
> 2.  What kind of bicycle friendly infrastructure can
> we reasonably expect over the long run.
>
> 3.  Breif synopsis of the successes and roadblocks of
> the CYCC.
>
> 4.  What is (are) the best way(s) to approach our
> goal?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- David Kay <dlk2 at cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>> Fernando can reserve a room for a CYCC meeting if we
>> can decide on a date.
>>
>> Do any of the following dates work for most of us?
>>
>> Mon May 12, 4:30 or 5?
>> Tues May 13, 4:30 or 5?
>> Wed May 14, 4:30 or 5?
>>
>> Mon May 19, 4:30 or 5?
>> Tues May 20, 4:30 or 5?
>> Wed May 21, 4:30 or 5?
>> Thu   May 22, 4:30 or 5?
>>
>> All are bad?  Propose alternatives.
>>
>> dlk
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	[Fwd: Re: What's happening with CYCC?]
>> Date: 	Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:23:29 -0400
>> From: 	Fernando Dearagon <fdearagon at tompkins-co.org>
>> To: 	David Kay <dlk2 at cornell.edu>
>> References: 	<48178752.3020205 at cornell.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>> We can find a room. The trick is deciding when.
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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