FLCC> Cayuga Lake Ride Record?

Sat May 9 18:20:43 PDT 2009

At Cameron's prodding, here's my note to him about Jim Black:

The record was probably set by Jim Black around 1981-82. I recall a 
time well under 4 hours. Jim owned Blackstar Bicycles in Ithaca in 
the late 70s-early 80s and made an unsuccessful attempt in 1981 to 
break the transcontinental record of 14 days.

I also recall that Jim organized weekly time trials in the early 80s 
starting at EHP, going out Ellis Hollow Rd to Ellis Hollow Creek, and 
then back on Genung. He was an extraordinary rider but perhaps 
somewhat less talented as a businessman. I once went to his shop to 
buy the new Sun Tour index shifters, but he kindly explained that 
shifting was all in the fingertips and no self-respecting cyclist 
would ever use index shifting. Anyone else remember him?

John McM

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>On May 9, 2009, at 7:08 PM, eric smith wrote:
>
>>Hi Cameron,
>>
>>I gather that you are specifically referring to a time riding 
>>around the lake in TT mode rather than in a race.  I think that 
>>there are likely records around from the quite old days when the 
>>FLCC used to have a race around the lake, and ridden as a race my 
>>recollection is that the fastest time ever was somewhere in the low 
>>3:20's by some Canadian guy named Steve Bauer.  Likely guys like 
>>Glenn or Ernie that were actually racing in that era would have 
>>more precise memories of the details.
>
>Interesting! I never knew there was a race around the lake. Was it a 
>mass start race like this: http://www.laketahoemarathon.com/Bike.html
>or an individual thing? Could be quite fun to do something like that again.
>
>>
>>I'm a little surprised that the best time in TT mode isn't better 
>>than just a tad under 4 hours, since my personal best solo trip 
>>around was just under 4:15 in a year when there was a detour for 
>>road construction on the west side of the lake that added about 2 
>>miles to the route. Even though that was over 30 years ago when I 
>>was noticeably faster than I am now, there has certainly never been 
>>a time when I was within 10% of the speed of the better local time 
>>trialers!
>
>Same - that's why I had to ask! I would have guessed 3:30-3:40 on a 
>road bike, individual ride. I got another response that Jim Black 
>has it at "well under 4 hours" (please CC the listserv guys, it 
>prevents repetitions and is interesting!).
>
>I'm definitely not going 100% all-out around the lake anytime soon, 
>I was just curious and I know there are a lot of knowledgeable 
>people on this list. What motivated me to come out to my first 
>Thursday night TT was finding the results on the FLCC listserv - it 
>let me know that at least people showed up and I wouldn't be out 
>there alone!
>
>Everyone knows this place is rich in cycling history. The cool thing 
>about listservs, blogs, websites, and google docs is that it makes 
>it easier to find an answer when the next person asks the same 
>question, and perhaps even motivates another person trying to get 
>into cycling to get out on their bike and ride. :)
>
>-Cameron
>
>
>>
>>
>>Cameron Cogburn wrote:
>>>From the responses I've gotten, it seems like it's right under 4 
>>>hours by Ryan Morris on a TT bike? Can't really confirm or deny 
>>>this, but I remember hearing something along those lines before. I 
>>>like the idea of a spreadsheet - I'll try to make one up and maybe 
>>>later try to make ones for the Thursday night TTs. Especially with 
>>>something like this it's more of a competition with yourself than 
>>>others, the spreadsheet being a means of motivation! As with the 
>>>satisfaction of learning new things, besting yourself is something 
>>>deeply satisfying that comes at no one else's expense.
>>>That being said, it's not like I'm a non-competitive person. ;)
>>>I have a 5 hour ride tomorrow, so I'll ride around the lake for 
>>>the first part of it and then attempt to make a google document 
>>>tomorrow evening. Looks like a 20 mph headwind going out, but 
>>>tailwind coming back! Wooo!
>>>-Cameron
>>>On May 9, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Paul Monkman wrote:
>>>>If there isn't, there should be!  I've been thinking of 
>>>>suggesting an informal tracking of people's times.  I would 
>>>>propose that we count all time from to finish with no deductions 
>>>>for flats, nature breaks, etc.  All on your honor.  Ride anytime 
>>>>you'd like.  Oh - and if you do it as a team, or use a funny bike 
>>>>(like my recumbent), just say so.  Maybe a Google spreadsheet 
>>>>could be used to track times?
>>>>
>>>>Paul Monkman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On May 9, 2009, at 12:34 AM, Cameron Cogburn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a record for riding the 86 miles around Lake Cayuga?
>>>>>
>>>>>Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Cameron
>>>>>
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